{"id":50410,"date":"2016-09-30T11:27:00","date_gmt":"2016-09-30T16:27:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2016-09-30T11:27:00","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T16:27:00","slug":"barack-obama-and-the-foreign-intelligence-surveillance-act-amendments-in-pledging-to-work-to-remove-retroactive-immunity-for-fisa-violations-what-kind-of-action-is-obama-contemplating","status":"publish","type":"supreme","link":"https:\/\/supreme.findlaw.com\/legal-commentary\/barack-obama-and-the-foreign-intelligence-surveillance-act-amendments-in-pledging-to-work-to-remove-retroactive-immunity-for-fisa-violations-what-kind-of-action-is-obama-contemplating.html","title":{"rendered":"Barack Obama and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Amendments: In Pledging to Work to Remove Retroactive Immunity for FISA Violations, What Kind of Action Is Obama Contemplating?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7  fl-block-columns fl-sectionWithSidebar fl-container fl-flex fl-flex-wrap fl-gap30\">\n    \n    <div class=\"fl-page-articles   fl-block-column fl-section-main fl-section-main-full-width\">\n        <div class=\"yui-g\" id=\"leftcol-module\">\n      <!-- Right Line of Links Section -->\n      <!-- BEGIN PICTURE INSERTION -->\n      <!-- BEGIN TITLE AND AUTHOR INSERTION -->\n      <table>\n        <tr>\n\n          <td width=\"100\" rowspan=\"3\" class=\"wiauthor\"><a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/john-dean-archive\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://supreme.findlaw.com/static/f/images\/writ\/john.dean.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n          <td class=\"wititle\"><h1>Barack Obama and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Amendments: In Pledging to Work to Remove Retroactive Immunity for FISA Violations, What Kind of Action Is Obama Contemplating?<\/h1><\/td>\n        <\/tr>\n        <tr>\n          <td class=\"wiauthor\"><a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/john-dean-archive\" class=\"graybold\"><h2>By JOHN W. DEAN <\/h2><br><\/a><\/td>\n        <\/tr>\n        <tr>\n          <td class=\"widate\">Wednesday, Jul. 2, 2008<\/td>\n\n        <\/tr>\n      <\/table>\n\n<span class=\"smalltext\">\n\n\n <p>The Democratic Party\u2019s presumptive presidential standard-bearer,  Senator Barack Obama, surprised many when he announced that he would support  the legislation passed by the House of Representatives on June 20, 2008  amending the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA). While the House legislation was called a  compromise, it was virtually identical to the earlier, rejected proposals that  the Bush Administration had requested and that organizations like the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aclu.org\/safefree\/spying\/35786prs20080626.html\" rel=\"noopener\">ACLU<\/a> had  fought for months \u2013 and continue to fight \u2013 to defeat. <\/p>  \n<p>In <a href=\"http:\/\/talkingpointsmemo.com\/archives\/201032.php\" rel=\"noopener\">his formal statement<\/a>,  Senator Obama said that while the House-passed bill left much to be desired  (here, I am paraphrasing his understatement), but he could live with it. He did add, however, that he remained  unsatisfied with the provision granting retroactive immunity to those involved  in violating the existing FISA law \u2013 in connection with the Bush  Administration\u2019s controversial \u201cwarrantless wiretapping\u201d program, in which the  Administration enlisted the aid of several telecoms in violating FISA. Thus far, that program has given rise to  civil suits against the telecoms by private parties, but not to any government  action.<\/p><\/span>\n\n<!-- 300x250 AD -->\n\n<p>Accordingly, Obama pledged to \u201cwork  to remove this provision so that we can seek <u>full accountability<\/u> for  past offenses.\u201d (Emphasis added.) He  then added further that, as President, he would take \u201cany additional steps\u201d he  deemed \u201cnecessary to protect the lives \u2013 and the liberty \u2013 of the American  people.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>What does Obama mean, exactly? No one is quite sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MSNBC Discussion of  Obama\u2019s Position on the FISA Amendments<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Appearing on MSNBC\u2019s \u201cCountdown\u201d on  the evening of June 20th, while all this was breaking news, I was  asked for my take on Senator Obama\u2019s apparent flip-flop. I knew that Obama had <a href=\"http:\/\/firedoglake.com\/2008\/01\/28\/barack-obama-statement-on-fisa\/\" rel=\"noopener\">vigorously  opposed immunity<\/a> earlier. (And I  suspected Republicans would \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/m.s.-bellows\/republicans-taunt-obama-a_b_109445.html\" rel=\"noopener\">as  they have done<\/a> \u2013 call him spineless for caving in to the fear of their  using his opposition to call him weak on fighting terrorism.) <\/p>\n<p>At the time, and giving Obama\u2019s  position the benefit of the conspicuous doubt his actions suggested, the  following exchange ensued between \u201cCountdown\u201d host Keith Olbermann and myself:<\/p><p>\n    <i>OLBERMANN: Senator Obama\u2018s position on this confuses  me. He loathes the telecom immunity, he says that he would fight it  immediately and he would monitor it carefully as president. The vote  though is next week. He better do that part of the fight quick. If this gets in through the Senate, there\u2018s  no way to get it out again, is there? I mean, the history of this nation  in terms of lost civil liberties is pretty bad about restoring them.<\/i><\/p><p>\n    <i>DEAN: Well, I spent a lot of time reading  that bill today, and it\u2018s a very poorly-drafted bill. One of the things  that is not clear is whether it\u2018s not possible later to go after the telecoms  for criminal liability. And that is something that Obama has said during  this campaign he would do, unlike prior presidents who come in and really give  their predecessor a pass, he said, \u201cI won\u2018t do that.\u201d And that might be  why he\u2018s just sitting back saying, \u201cWell, I\u2018m going to let this go  through. But that doesn\u2018t mean I\u2018m going to give the telecoms a  pass.\u201d I would love it if he gets up on the Senate floor and says, \u201cI\u2018m  keeping that option open.\u201d<\/i><\/p><p>\n    <i>OLBERMANN: In other words, let the private suits drop  and get somebody in there who\u2018ll actually use the laws that still exist to  prosecute and make the actual statement and maybe throw a few people in jail.<\/i><\/p><p>\n    <i>DEAN: Exactly. And it looks to me, as I read  this bill and talk to a number of people in Washington familiar with the bill,  some who are involved in the negotiations, and they say, \u201cYou know &#8211; we just  didn\u2018t think about this issue.\u201d So, as it goes to the Senate, maybe  Obama\u2018s got a shot to take, you know, a future look at this thing and not let  them have the pass that they think they\u2018re getting.<\/i><\/p><p>\n    <i>OLBERMANN: That would be a nice symmetry to that\u2014that  everybody had been so lulled into a sense of complacency because of the Bush  success on this that they\u2018ve left out anything that protected anybody legally,  if you had a president who actually believed in the Constitution&#8230;. <\/i><\/p><p>\n    <strong>The FISA Amendments  Do Not Provide Immunity for Criminal Violations<\/strong><\/p>\n<p> To date,  nothing has happened. The Senate has  delayed action on these amendments until after the July 4th  congressional recess (<a href=\"http:\/\/thehill.com\/leading-the-news\/housing-bill-fisa-delayed-until-after-july-recess-2008-06-26.html\" rel=\"noopener\">thank  you, Senator Russ Feingold<\/a>), so I have taken a closer look at the  House-passed bill and tracked its legislative history. It is clear not only from the language of the  bill (which must be read in the context of other, related statutes to be  clearly understood), but also from the legislative history, that there is  absolutely no <u>criminal<\/u> immunity for anyone in these FISA  amendments. <\/p>\n<p> In  addition, I spoke with the Washington office of the ACLU, which has been  following the legislation closely while trying to limit its further rollback of  prior protections of civil liberties.  The ACLU agrees that there is no criminal immunity, and while this fact  had been largely overlooked, Legislative Counsel Michelle Richardson said this  point had been mentioned in passing in both the House and Senate during the  debate. With a little more digging, I  found that the sponsors, as well as the Bush Administration, also understand  that there is no immunity in the House-passed bill from criminal prosecutions  for violations by anyone.<\/p>\n<p>The House-passed bill has  provisions virtually identical to many in the earlier Senate-passed bill. No one in the Senate watches out for the best  interests of Bush Administration better than Republican Senator (and former  presidential candidate) Sam Brownback of Kansas. During the <a href=\"http:\/\/frwebgate5.access.gpo.gov\/cgi-bin\/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=603417259349+0+0+0&amp;WAISaction=retrieve\" rel=\"noopener\">January  24, 2008 debate<\/a> in the Senate, Senator Brownback noted, \u201cThe immunity  provisions would not apply to the Government or Government officials. Cases  against the Government regarding the alleged programs would continue. And <u>the  provisions would apply only to civil and not <strong>criminal<\/strong> cases<\/u>.\u201d  (Emphasis added.) <\/p>\n<p> Similarly,  when the FISA amendments were being addressed in the House during the <a href=\"http:\/\/frwebgate5.access.gpo.gov\/cgi-bin\/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=603417259349+3+0+0&amp;WAISaction=retrieve\" rel=\"noopener\">June  20, 2008 debate<\/a>, Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey and Director of  National Intelligence J.M. McConnell sent Speaker Pelosi a letter for the  record analyzing the provisions. This letter  stated, among other things, that: \u201cThe  framework contained in the bill for obtaining retroactive liability protection  is narrowly tailored. &#8230; The liability protection provision does not extend to  the Government or to Government officials <u>and it does not immunize any <strong>criminal<\/strong> conduct<\/u>.\u201d (Emphasis added.)<\/p><p>\n  \n   Because  this legislation addresses only civil liability, Senator Obama has a unique  opportunity to show that his leadership as President would, in fact, bring a  change to Washington. Indeed, he can  both support the amendments now pending (for the reasons he stated), and make  clear that as President he will request that his attorney general determine if  criminal actions should be taken for the blatant violations of the criminal  law. Actually, he has already said this,  but in a larger context.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Since Obama Has  Already Declared that He Will Hold the Bush Administration Officials  Responsible for their Crimes, He Can Now Have It Both Ways: Support the FISA Amendments  and Hold Miscreants Responsible<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>During the primaries, Senator Obama  stated that, as President, he would not give his predecessors a pass for their  crimes, which has recently become the informal custom. Obama was asked about this matter by a  seasoned political reporter for the Philadelphia Daily News, <a href=\"http:\/\/pdn.philly.com\/2004\/08\/30\/bio.htm\" rel=\"noopener\">Will Bunch<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Bunch wanted to know Obama whether  his administration\u2019s Justice Department &#8220;would aggressively go after and  investigate whether crimes have been committed&#8221; by the Bush Administration. The discussion arose in the context of the  uses of torture and other illegal means to fight terrorism, but Obama\u2019s  response was general and unequivocal. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.philly.com\/philly\/blogs\/attytood\/Barack_on_torture.html\" rel=\"noopener\">Bunch  reported<\/a> that Obama said: <\/p>\n<p><i>What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department  and my Attorney General <u>immediately review<\/u> the information that&#8217;s  already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I  can&#8217;t prejudge that because we don&#8217;t have access to all the material right now.  I think that you are right, <u>if crimes have been committed, they should be  investigated<\/u>. You&#8217;re also right that I would not want my first term  consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch  hunt because I think we&#8217;ve got too many problems we&#8217;ve got to solve. <\/i><\/p>\n   <p> <i>So this is an area where I would want to  exercise judgment &#8212; I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General  &#8212; having pursued, having looked at what&#8217;s out there right now &#8212; are there  possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think  it&#8217;s important&#8211; one of the things we&#8217;ve got to figure out in our political  culture generally is distinguishing between really dumb policies and policies  that rise to the level of criminal activity. <\/i><\/p>\n    <p><i>You know, I often get questions about  impeachment at town hall meetings and I&#8217;ve said that is not something I think  would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that  should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now<u>, if I found out that  there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws,  engaged in cover-ups of those crimes with knowledge [aforethought], then I  think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody[\u2019s] above the law &#8212; and  I think that&#8217;s roughly how I would look at it<\/u>. (Emphasis added.)<\/i><\/p>\n    <strong>If Obama Is a Man of  His Word, He Should Place Bush Officials and the Telecommunications Companies on  Notice of the Action He Will Take as President<\/strong>\n<p>Not everyone is aware of the statement that  Obama made to Will Bunch, or the reality that there is no immunity from  criminal prosecution under the FISA amendments.  In fact, it is not clear if Senator Obama himself is aware of the limits  of the immunity in the FISA amendments.  However, if Obama is a man of his word, he should explain to his Senate  colleagues that when elected President, he will \u201cimmediately\u201d request that his  attorney general investigate the criminal activity of the Bush Administration  in violating the FISA statute, along with the telecommunications firms who  aided and abetted these violations. <\/p>\n<p>It certainly would not be  unprecedented if an Obama Administration were to hold high officials of a prior  administration responsible for their criminal activity undertaken in the name  of national security. For example,  former Nixon assistant to the president John Ehrlichman said that he acted for  national security reasons when he approved a warrantless break-in at Daniel  Ellsberg\u2019s psychiatrist\u2019s office; yet he was prosecuted, convicted, and sent to  jail for his actions during the Ford Administration. During the Carter Administration, too, former  CIA Director Richard Helms was convicted for lying to Congress, which he did  for national security reasons; he was given a two-year suspended prison  sentence and fined. Former Assistant  Director of the FBI Mark Felt (later revealed to be Bob Woodward\u2019s \u201cDeep  Throat\u201d source during Watergate) was convicted for authorizing some nine  warrantless break-ins of the radical Weatherman groups for national security  reasons; while he faced ten years in jail, he was not sentenced to serve any  time, but rather fined $5,000, and he was later pardoned by President  Reagan. <\/p>\n<p>If Senator Obama is going to honor  the statement he made to Will Bunch, then he should place the Bush  Administration and telecommunications companies on notice of his  intentions. This will provide President  Bush an opportunity to immunize those who broke the law at his request from  criminal prosecutions, which he can do as long as he is President with his  power to grant pardons. For Bush to  issue a blanket pardon in this situation would be unprecedented, and it would  offer Bush a chance at historical ignominy far exceeding what he already faces,  and thus potentially become a powerful issue for the Democrats to campaign on  during this 2008 election year. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Broader Meaning of a Blanket  Pardon for \u201cNational Security\u201d Law Breakers<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If the civil suits that will now be  dismissed under the FISA amendments had proceeded, it is questionable whether  they could have been fully litigated, because they involved national security  matters that no administration would disclose.  Moreover, if those persons who have violated FISA at the request of  President Bush are criminally prosecuted, it is not likely that any would be  sent to jail (absent aggravating circumstances like those that existed in the  case of Ehrlichman, who was involved in hiding information from the  courts). But they all, particularly the  telecoms, could face serious fines for criminal actions. Given the downside, it is not clear whether  Bush would issue a pardon in this context. <\/p>\n<p>If it were issued by Bush, however,  a blanket pardon to his \u201cnational security\u201d miscreants would require acceptance  by them of the fact that they had broken the law, and thus an admission of  guilt. Were Bush to issue such a  remarkable pardon, it would, of course, cement his historical stature as  several notches below even that of Richard Nixon, who refused to pardon those  who (many \u201cfor national security reasons\u201d) engaged in the so-called Watergate  abuses of presidential power on his behalf.  Not many presidents want to be viewed by history as worse than Nixon.  And a blanket pardon would be an admission by Bush that his war on terror has  been a lawless undertaking, operating beyond the bounds of the Constitution and  statutes that check the powers of the president and the executive branch. It would be an admission by Bush, too, of his  own criminal culpability (which is why Nixon refused to grant his aides a  pardon.) <\/p><p>\n   \n  Bush is very politically  savvy. He knows that a blanket pardon,  or even the prospect of it, could give Obama and the Democratic Party a  wonderful issue during the coming months of the general election. Most Americans are deeply concerned about  Bush\/Cheney\u2019s conduct of foreign affairs and national security, which ignores  American laws and treaty obligations.  So if Bush is forced to pardon his national security zealots, or if GOP  standard-bearer John McCain was forced to embrace such action (as he likely  would be), it raises the issue of whether Americans now want to elect a  president who is subject to the law, or endure another temporary monarchy which  ignores it. And that is no small issue  in this 2008 election. <\/p>\n<p>In short, Senator Obama has much to  gain by restating his position, unless his beliefs on the subject have  changed. Conversely, Bush and McCain  have much to lose if a blanket pardon becomes an issue. However, if Obama now has no stomach to  enforce the criminal law, as he once proclaimed he would, he may pay a  significant cost for balking. In  particular, he is likely going to lose more than a few among his base of  supporters who are upset with his flip-flop on the FISA amendments, for many of  these unhappy supporters may currently take comfort in knowing (as few others  know) that he could hold violators responsible for their criminal actions \u2013 and  will retain that power even if the current legislation becomes law. <\/p>\n<p>Of course, Obama can remain silent,  which is the usual course of action for Washington politicians in these  situations. But he will remain silent at  the risk of making all his previous statements increasingly hollow, and his  posture strikingly wishy-washy. And how  refreshing it would be for him to act like a leader who believes we are  governed by laws, not the whims of men.<\/p>\n<p>What better way, too, for Obama to make clear that he  will do what he said to protect the rights and liberties of all Americans, and  to keep government officials and those who assist them fully accountable, than  by making clear that those who violate the criminal laws that protect  Americans\u2019 freedoms will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. What better time than this issue, as well, to  learn if Barack Obama is a stand-up leader or a slick politician who dodges his  own past words when they might prove to have real meaning for the future.<\/p>\n<hr size=\"1\">\n<p class=\"authorfoot\">\n\n<!-- BEGIN AUTHORS FOOTNOTE -->\n<a name=\"bio\"><\/a>\nJohn W. 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