{"id":53586,"date":"2016-09-30T11:27:00","date_gmt":"2016-09-30T16:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ability-fl-prod.internetbrands.com\/ability-legal\/supreme\/legal-commentary\/the-importance-of-scott-mcclellans-testimony-before-the-house-judiciary-committee-including-possible-new-obstruction-of-justice-charges-for-scooter-libby-and-karl-rove.html"},"modified":"2016-09-30T11:27:00","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T16:27:00","slug":"the-importance-of-scott-mcclellans-testimony-before-the-house-judiciary-committee-including-possible-new-obstruction-of-justice-charges-for-scooter-libby-and-karl-rove","status":"publish","type":"supreme","link":"https:\/\/supreme.findlaw.com\/legal-commentary\/the-importance-of-scott-mcclellans-testimony-before-the-house-judiciary-committee-including-possible-new-obstruction-of-justice-charges-for-scooter-libby-and-karl-rove.html","title":{"rendered":"The Importance of Scott McClellan&#8217;s Testimony Before the House Judiciary Committee &#8211; Including Possible New Obstruction of Justice Charges for Scooter Libby and Karl Rove"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7  fl-block-columns fl-sectionWithSidebar fl-container fl-flex fl-flex-wrap fl-gap30\">\n    \n    <div class=\"fl-page-articles   fl-block-column fl-section-main fl-section-main-full-width\">\n        <div class=\"yui-g\" id=\"leftcol-module\">\n      <!-- Right Line of Links Section -->\n      <!-- BEGIN PICTURE INSERTION -->\n      <!-- BEGIN TITLE AND AUTHOR INSERTION -->\n      <table>\n        <tr>\n\n          <td width=\"100\" rowspan=\"3\" class=\"wiauthor\"><a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/john-dean-archive\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://supreme.findlaw.com/static/f/images\/writ\/john.dean.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n          <td class=\"wititle\"><h1>The Importance of Scott McClellan&#8217;s Testimony Before the House Judiciary Committee &#8212; Including Possible New Obstruction of Justice Charges for Scooter Libby and Karl Rove<\/h1><\/td>\n        <\/tr>\n        <tr>\n          <td class=\"wiauthor\"><a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/john-dean-archive\" class=\"graybold\"><h2>By JOHN W. DEAN <\/h2><br><\/a><\/td>\n        <\/tr>\n        <tr>\n          <td class=\"widate\">Friday, Jun. 13, 2008<\/td>\n\n        <\/tr>\n      <\/table>\n\n<span class=\"smalltext\">\n\n\n <p>Former Bush White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan has  agreed to testify before the Judiciary Committee of the U.S. House of  Representatives on June 20. He was  invited, of course, because of his revelatory new book <i>What  Happened: Inside the Bush White House  and Washington&#8217;s Culture of Deception<\/i>. <\/p>  \n<p>Florida congressman Robert Wexler, a member of the  committee, has succinctly explained why he and many others expect McClellan\u2019s  appearance to be potentially highly significant: \u201cThe allegations  made by McClellan that Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and possibly even Vice  President Dick Cheney, together conspired to obstruct justice by lying about  their role in the Plame case relates directly to the core of US executive power  and the Constitution. If true, the allegations made by McClellan could amount  to an obstruction of justice charge for Scooter Libby and Karl Rove.\u201d<\/p><\/span>\n\n<!-- 300x250 AD -->\n\n<p>If McClellan\u2019s testimony suggests  that Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, for any reason, gave Karl Rove and  Dick Cheney a pass when, in fact, there was a conspiracy \u2013 which is still  ongoing \u2013 to obstruct justice, then these hearings could trigger the reopening  of the case. But this is a pretty large \u201cIf.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Evidence Necessary to Reopen the Plame  Investigation: Though Special Counsel  Fitzgerald Cannot Talk About the Grand Jury, Witness McClellan Can Share What  His Testimony Was <\/strong><\/p>\n<p> Patrick  Fitzgerald conducted his investigation behind closed doors. Other than Fitzgerald and his staff, no one  knows what they found or did not find, because they conducted the investigation  through a federal grand jury. Rule 6(e)  of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure has sealed this information in  secrecy, and cut off any ability of Fitzgerald and his staff to talk about what  occurred.<\/p>\n<p> No  one believes that Fitzgerald (and his team) were anything less than vigorous in  investigating the effort to discredit former Ambassador Joe Wilson by revealing  that his wife, Valerie Plame Wilson, was a CIA operative. Yet since no one knows what Fitzgerald  learned, except those who cannot speak of what they know, it is not possible to  determine whether he might have been outfoxed by the White House. As experienced a prosecutor as Fitzgerald is,  he was playing in a very different league when investigating the Bush White  House. These folks make Nixon\u2019s White  House look like Little Leaguers \u2013 and based on what is known about the Plame  investigation, I have long suspected that Fitzgerald was playing out of his  league. (See, for example, <a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/how-the-bush-administration-is-flouting-the-current-special-counsel-regulations.html\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/waiting-for-the-valerie-plame-wilson-grand-jury-the-big-question-is-whether-dick-cheney-was-a-target.html\">here<\/a>.) <\/p>\n<p>   There is nothing under  Rule 6(e) that prohibits Scott McClellan from discussing everything he told  Fitzgerald and the grand jury. McClellan\u2019s testimony can, in turn, create a  wedge to peek inside the investigation.<\/p>\n<p> The  insights and information that McClellan might provide could lead to new  pressure for witnesses like Rove and Libby to appear before the Congressional  committee. It has never been clear to me  why Libby was not previously called before the Congress, for he clearly  possesses much relevant information. Of  course, Rove and Libby will hide behind executive privilege when called before  Congress. But McClellan is a different  story. <\/p>\n<p>Bush  cannot force McClellan to invoke executive privilege, but McClellan will be  exiled from the his former clan for failing to remain silent, for McClellan\u2019s  testimony has the potential of giving the House of Representatives the added  information, if not the spine, needed to enforce its own contempt  citations. To date, the Bush White House  has made a <a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/harriet-mierss-contempt-of-congress-are-conservatives-about-to-neuter-congress-while-claiming-full-legal-justification-for-this-separation-of-powers-violation.html\">mockery of  Congress, openly defying its proceedings.<\/a> <\/p>\n<p> The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fas.org\/sgp\/crs\/misc\/RS22783.pdf\" rel=\"noopener\">obstruction of justice  laws<\/a> are very broad. Still it is not  likely that McClellan\u2019s testimony alone will result in the reopening of a  criminal investigation into obstruction of justice. Granted, Bush\u2019s attorney general, former  federal judge Michael Mukasey, is not going to do anything on this score. Nonetheless, McClellan can start a process  that will reopen the case in the future.  Unlike prior presidential candidates, Barack Obama believes it is time  for change regarding responsibility for criminal conduct at the highest levels  of government \u2013 and he could act on that belief by reopening this investigation  with his own people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Candidate Obama\u2019s Exceptional Position on the Crimes of His  Predecessor <\/strong><br>\n   <br>\n   Barack  Obama would truly be a president of change if he held a predecessor  administration criminally liable for its misconduct. It has long been something of an unofficial  standard of comity between out-going and in-coming presidents to overlook the  misconduct of the previous administration.  But no president is compelled to do so.<\/p>\n<p> During  the primaries, Obama was asked this question.  His response was so striking, I have quoted it in full: \u201cWhat I would want to do is  to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the  information that&#8217;s already there and to find out are there inquiries that need  to be pursued. I can&#8217;t prejudge that because we don&#8217;t have access to all the material  right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they  should be investigated. You&#8217;re also right that I would not want my first term  consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch  hunt because I think we&#8217;ve got too many problems we&#8217;ve got to solve.\u201d<\/p>\n<p> He continued, \u201cSo this is an area  where I would want to exercise judgment &#8212; I would want to find out directly  from my Attorney General &#8212; having pursued, having looked at what&#8217;s out there  right now &#8212; are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad  policies. And I think it&#8217;s important&#8211; one of the things we&#8217;ve got to figure  out in our political culture generally is distinguishing between really dumb  policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I  often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I&#8217;ve said that  is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that  impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances.  Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously  broke existing laws, engaged in cover-ups of those crimes with knowledge  forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody is above  the law &#8212; and I think that&#8217;s roughly how I would look at it.\u201d<\/p>\n Obama\u2019s  unusual and laudable perspective is why McClellan\u2019s appearance, and the  diligence of the House Judiciary Committee, are the reason that this may not be  merely a matter of passing interest. If  a congressional committee, like the House Judiciary Committee, develops a prima  facie case that would make it appropriate for President Obama\u2019s attorney  general to fully investigate the matter.  Needless to say, if we have a President McCain, the Congress happens to uncover  even far more heinous crimes than obstructing justice, you can be certain that nothing  would happen &#8212; other than the Bush and Cheney team leaving government without  a scratch.\n<hr size=\"1\">\n<p class=\"authorfoot\">\n\n<!-- BEGIN AUTHORS FOOTNOTE -->\n<a name=\"bio\"><\/a>\nJohn W. 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