{"id":54475,"date":"2016-09-30T11:27:00","date_gmt":"2016-09-30T16:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/content.findlaw-admin.com\/ability-legal\/supreme\/legal-commentary\/who-is-the-worst-scoundrel-if-all-the-allegations-are-true-blagojevich-madoff-or-dreier.html"},"modified":"2016-09-30T11:27:00","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T16:27:00","slug":"who-is-the-worst-scoundrel-if-all-the-allegations-are-true-blagojevich-madoff-or-dreier","status":"publish","type":"supreme","link":"https:\/\/supreme.findlaw.com\/legal-commentary\/who-is-the-worst-scoundrel-if-all-the-allegations-are-true-blagojevich-madoff-or-dreier.html","title":{"rendered":"Who Is the Worst Scoundrel, If All the Allegations Are True &#8211; Blagojevich, Madoff or Dreier?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7  fl-block-columns fl-sectionWithSidebar fl-container fl-flex fl-flex-wrap fl-gap30\">\n    \n    <div class=\"fl-page-articles   fl-block-column fl-section-main fl-section-main-full-width\">\n        <div class=\"yui-g\" id=\"leftcol-module\">\n      <!-- Right Line of Links Section -->\n      <!-- BEGIN PICTURE INSERTION -->\n      <!-- BEGIN TITLE AND AUTHOR INSERTION -->\n      <table>\n        <tr>\n\n          <td width=\"100\" rowspan=\"3\" class=\"wiauthor\"><a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/edward-lazarus-archive\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https://supreme.findlaw.com/static/f/images\/writ\/edward.lazarus.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n          <td class=\"wititle\"><h1>Who Is the Worst Scoundrel, If All the Allegations Are True &#8211; Blagojevich, Madoff or Dreier?<\/h1><\/td>\n        <\/tr>\n        <tr>\n          <td class=\"wiauthor\"><a href=\"\/legal-commentary\/edward-lazarus-archive\" class=\"graybold\"><h2>By EDWARD LAZARUS <\/h2><br><\/a><\/td>\n        <\/tr>\n        <tr>\n          <td class=\"widate\">Thursday, Dec. 18, 2008<\/td>\n\n        <\/tr>\n      <\/table>\n\n<p>Here is a game that I&#8217;ve been trying out on my colleagues,  and that everyone can play at home: Who  is the most morally culpable: Governor  Rod Blagojevich, stock swindler Bernie Madoff, or lawyer-gone-bad Marc Dreier?<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"smalltext\">Of course, the game comes with a caveat: None of these individuals has yet been  convicted of any of the crimes charged.  But let&#8217;s indulge ourselves with the not-implausible assumption that  most or all of what we&#8217;ve read in the news is true. Which is the worst of the three? <\/p>\n\n<span class=\"smalltext\">\n  \n<!-- 300x250 AD -->\n\n<\/span>\n        \n  <p><strong>The Case for Blagojevich: Allegations of Grossly Abusing the Public  Trust<\/strong><\/p>\n    <p>In my office, the results have been split, for the reasons  described below. Whatever the  bottom-line vote, however, all the conversations I&#8217;ve had on the topic come  around to the same incredibly depressing conclusion \u2013 we may be living through  the most corrupt period in American history, a time when society&#8217;s elite threw  off the harness of law and decency in headlong pursuit of riches and  self-aggrandizement.<br>\n   Although he is not my choice for the most morally culpable  of the three, a lot of my friends put Blagojevich in the very worst circle of  the Inferno. The most notorious charge  against the Illinois  governor is that he viewed the chance to appoint Barack Obama&#8217;s successor as a  vehicle for enhancing his personal fortune.  Caught on a wiretap, Blago is heard to gloat: &#8220;I&#8217;ve got this thing [the  power of appointment] and it&#8217;s (expletive) golden. And I&#8217;m just not giving it  up for (expletive) nothing. I&#8217;m not gonna do it.&#8221;<\/p>\n      <p>Then there is an allegation that is perhaps less  well-known but no less appalling: Blago is also accused of threatening to  withhold millions in assistance to a children&#8217;s hospital unless sufficient  contributions were made to him.  Similarly, he allegedly expected contributions in exchange for toll road  contracts. And he is claimed to have  threatened not to help the Chicago Cubs&#8217; stadium unless the <em>Chicago Tribune<\/em> fired editorial board employees who&#8217;d been critical of him.<\/p>\n      <p>Maybe it&#8217;s the fact that I know a lot of former government  lawyers, including a lot of former prosecutors, but the fact that Blago was  abusing the public trust for private gain registered extra high on the  immorality scale with many whose opinions I sampled. And who can truly argue with their view? When our high public officials behave  disgracefully, it reinforces a destructive cynicism about our whole political  system. And it&#8217;s really no rejoinder to  say, as some have, that, hey, we&#8217;re talking about Illinois here \u2013 so what did we expect?<\/p>\n        <p><strong>Are the Allegations Against Madoff and  Dreier Arguably Worse Because They Describe More Concrete Harms?<\/strong><\/p>\n        <p>Still, as awful as Blago&#8217;s conduct is, I find the talk  about abusing the public trust to be a little bloodless and abstract in  comparison to the harms allegedly visited upon victims by the other two members  of my little Rogues Gallery.<\/p>\n          <p>Take Bernie Madoff. According to the  Securities and Exchange Commission, which unfortunately missed the real problem  despite having Madoff on its radar for years, this highly-regarded Wall Street  figure had long been running an enormous Ponzi scheme. Attracting huge amounts of money from individuals,  charities, and investment advisors, Madoff had been paying unsustainably high  returns to some investors using the principal invested by others. Apparently, Madoff&#8217;s operation had long been  insolvent \u2013 kept going only by steady infusions of new money. But with the financial crisis and the  redemption demands that followed, the whole pyramid came crashing down, with  losses estimated at $50 billion.<\/p>\n            <p>There&#8217;s nothing abstract about the havoc Madoff has caused. A host of wonderful charitable organizations  have lost most or all of their endowments.  Lots of individuals have lost big chunks of their life savings. Madoff had won their trust completely \u2013 and  now a sudden and devastating financial disaster has engulfed them.<\/p>\n              <p>The breadth and depth of the losses, all the good work that Madoff has imperiled,  and the extensive and devious premeditation that Madoff&#8217;s scheme required, over  a long interval of time, all add substantially to his moral culpability in my  book. And, thus, while most of the time  a breach of the public trust will trump a breach of private trust in its moral  turpitude, I view Madoff as an exception to the usual rule by dint of how many  innocent people and good institutions he has ruined, or nearly so.<\/p>\n                <p><strong>Dreier  Versus Madoff: Who Is the More Culpable,  Based on the Allegations We&#8217;ve Heard So Far?<\/strong><\/p>\n                <p>Measured by size, Marc Dreier&#8217;s misdeeds pale in comparison to  Madoff&#8217;s. So far it looks like Dreier,  an incredibly successful Harvard-trained lawyer with his own nice-sized law  firm, stole only about $380 million. But  on the moral culpability scale, he ranks awfully high.<\/p>\n                  <p>According to press reports, Dreier is guilty of at least two types of  theft. First, while impersonating other  people, Dreier sold hundreds of millions in phony discount notes purportedly  issued by a prominent New York  real estate developer. Second, he  apparently took $38 million from one of his firm&#8217;s client trust funds.<\/p>\n                    <p>Like Madoff&#8217;s &#8212; indeed, even more so than Madoff&#8217;a &#8212; Dreier&#8217;s scheme  required an extraordinary amount of planning and premeditation, in part because  he created and sold bogus financial instruments. And Dreier appears to have been even more  purely venal than Madoff. To be sure,  Madoff made plenty of money off his Ponzi scheme. But it&#8217;s not at all clear that personal  profit was his principal objective. A  lot of the money going through Madoff&#8217;s operation went into the hands of his  investors.<\/p>\n                      <p>Dreier, by contrast, seems to have been motivated purely by an astonishing  greed. Clever and brazen, he was simply  taking other people&#8217;s money and buying an unbelievably lavish lifestyle. Pure selfishness surely counts for something  \u2013 something bad.<\/p>\n                        <p>And while Dreier has not left as large a wake of misery as Madoff has, he&#8217;s  left plenty of victims behind. There are  the lawyers and staff, numbering in the hundreds, who have been left without  jobs or health insurance. There are the  victims whose lawsuits against the firm are surely flowing in. With respect to those suits, too, Dreier&#8217;s  colleagues, perhaps right down to the first- years, none of whom were complicit  in Dreier&#8217;s thievery, have been left holding the bag.<\/p>\n   <p>All told, my own ranking is Madoff, followed by  Dreier, followed by Blago. But I won&#8217;t  argue with any permutation of the three.  In high times, we re-prove the wisdom of the ages about the corrupting  influence of money and power. The low  times that inevitably follow expose the rot and inspire the hard work of  rebuilding the communal ties and legal timber on which society&#8217;s prosperity is  built. As we take stock of the last  cast of villains, that is our task now.<\/p>\n\n  <hr size=\"1\">\n<p class=\"authorfoot\">\n\n<!-- BEGIN AUTHORS FOOTNOTE -->\n<a name=\"bio\"><\/a>\nEdward Lazarus, a FindLaw columnist, writes about, practices, and teaches law in Los Angeles. 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